Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 19)
From: Cameron Laird
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:48:58 +0000
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:  "C/C++, which is used by 16% of users, is the most popular
programming language, but Tcl, used by 0%, seems to be the language
of choice for the highest scoring users."  Stats page of Project Euler
    http://mathschallenge.net/index.php?section=home

"Zoran has done such a good job with Thread that it's a real pity not to
take advantage of it." -- Jeffrey Hobbs on how the latest ActiveState
Windows-hosted Tcl acquired Thread capabilities


POTW:  "RamDebugger is a graphical debugger for the scripting language
Tcl-Tk"--and more.
    http://wiki.tcl.tk/ramdebugger


    Mark Roseman freshens www.tcl.tk to vastly-improved effect.
        http://www.tcl.tk

    Read for yourself all the features ActiveTcl 8.4 and 8.5 provide.
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/c143d9d43d29738f
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/6b433c62402dadcf

    Confusions by the public about Parrot's nature and prospects haven't
    prevented Will Coleda's team from its own progress.
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/2c60312e7244cda7/

    Bob Techentin and Helmut Giese know how to work with packages.
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e69ff23fb2af3559/

Thanks to Arjen Markus for his so-accurate summary of Wiki activity:
  Debates over object-orientation and how to do 3D graphics 
  seem to be the main topic on the Wiki, a week before the
  Tcl conference! 
  
  Language features
  - A lesson in programming language history as a result
    of a would-be control structure - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14844>
  
  - Chemical formulae can be challenging, here is a markup
    language for them - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/6480>
  
  - A completely different story: a Tcl-like clone of Java
    or is it the other way around? Anyway: for your cell phone,
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/13496>
  
  - Let us revisit the TOOT method of object-orientation.
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11543> is but one page on the subject.
  
  Graphics potpourri
  - Making a scrollable two-dimensional canvas using 
    a three-dimensional extension - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14847>
  
  - Representing an XML file on the canvas: Tcldot to the 
    rescue - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/8633>
  
  - Megawidgets are yet another continuous source for debate:
    here is a compositional approach - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14846>
  
  One opportunity 
  - Meet a long-term Tcler with spatial ambitions: 
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14837>


Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

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