Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Aug 8)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:09:00 +0000
To: "Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL distribution" :;
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:  "That's part of 'marketing'.  Tcl for one reason or the other, seems
to have done a really good job of getting into companies, but it seems to be
a 'black hole' in that nothing gets out again." - David Welton

"Also it is self-reinforcing:  When there is no 'buzz' surrounding a
language, companies don't flaunt it as a 'buzz-word'." - Donald Arsenau,
also on c.l.t


POTW:
    ANN: TkHelpBrowser 1.2
    TkHelpBrowser is a simple but complete system for displaying user
    documentation in an application. In addition to providing display of the
    HTML pages, it provides navigation of the documents via a treeview, and
    also provides basic search capabilities
    homepage: http://tk-components.sourceforge.net/helpbrowser/index.html
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8a1d18bf338e9669


ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl

    Starpack/XOTcl/Thread exit behavior
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/cccc85398af8c949

    TclSOAP and SOAP headers
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/400ffc3ef939ab8e

    Tile question
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/ea22a09ae55e826a
	http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/browse_thread/thread/d724060a00573cab

    NewsForge Ariticle
	Interesting how words like buzz, marketing, etc...  and then something positive.
	url: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/28/219235&from=rss
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/d4eda504e4df13b8

    navigation, zooming in/out, how to solve it?
    Questions on (new/other) UI concepts:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/3062174ac62715bd
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl.tk/browse_thread/thread/5bce1eb12264611f

    Tcl's Future  was: Re: Apache 2.0 TCL solution
	an ongoing discussion:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/aad3963513aafd64

    Tk within a foreing MDI host ( tcl-core )
    How to get Tk Windows managed under the "Viewport" Window of an MDI App:
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=29424300&forum_id=3854

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 268 by Jeff Hobbs : Enhance 'package' Version Handling
	some discussion on implementation in tcl-core
	http://sourceforge.net/search/index.php?group_id=10894&form_submit=Search&search_subject=1&type_of_search=mlists&all_words=&exact_phrase=tip+268&
	( i can't rid myself of the impression that threading and the
	searchform on sourceforge maillists are somehow broken )

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    SDIO interface
    are there any way to use Tcl sending commands or data via SDIO 
    interface just like the way it communicates with COM port?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/519f7a8293bf80f5

URBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    (naive?) question
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e374cb3583be2c38/

    BUG?: Multi-interpreter grab problems
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/7ec9b9c80aa7e93f

    ANNOUNCE: EC - embedded C in Tcl ( ProtoCritcl ? )
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl.announce/browse_thread/thread/2bdb66a334eb1709

    Algorithm for Canvas 
    splitting canvas postscript output into multiple pages:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/98ac0c16498c89a5


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his report:
  It is the holiday season in the northern hemisphere and
  that may or may not influence Wiki activity - oh, just
  see for yourself.
  
  Discussions
  - The fabled "Tcl 9" may or may not be different when
    it comes to interactive features - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/16214>
  
  - Need to build a help system? There are plenty of options
    as witnessed by <http://wiki.tcl.tk/3196>
  
  - Implementing the famous map function, that showpiece of
    functional programming, is dead-easy with Tcl 8.5's apply
    command - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/12848>
  
  Demonstrations
  - All you need is Tcl/Tk if you want to do some logic programming:
    See <http://wiki.tcl.tk/16234> for editing logical notations
    and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/16238. if you are more concerned with
    databases and unification.
  
  - You may not release it, but it is very easy with Tcl to 
    update a _running_ program. <http://wiki.tcl.tk/1027>
  
  - Now that these little hand-held computers are so ubiquitous,
    you could just wait for this kind of application to appear:
    always have a map of your whereabouts on the screen
    - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/16207>


Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

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