Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 31)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:14:39 +0000
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:  "You aren't reading carefully. There is no claim that it loads
web pages correctly, only that you don't need to *worry* about it.  That
sentiment is indeed IE compatible." - Donald Arsenau on c.l.t

"In Naperville, the most fascinating presentation for me was
stever's about Whim." - Richard Suchenwirth
    http://wiki.tcl.tk/13972


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE:  InstallJammer 1.0.4 Released!
    InstallJammer is a multiplatform GUI installer and builder
    designed to be completely cross-platform and function on
    Windows and most all version of UNIX with eventual support
    for Mac OS X.
    Changes:
    This release fixes some minor bugs that have been reported
    since the last release as well as adds some new actions
    and a few small enhancements.
    This release also includes a lot of changed debugging output
    to better help developers debug an install.  Much more
    information is output to the debug logs.
    Homepage: http://www.installjammer.com/
    Downloads: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=148203
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/ba24c2d9fc15b7a2

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    All commands are equal, but some are more equal than others.
    Mark Janssen writes another installment of 
    TclTimeLine (Pre)Views http://wiki.tcl.tk/17126
    to highlight his point that with OO and [namespace ensamble]
    there are now very different types of commands available.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/747c669c8b360e09
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/1983755740569e99
	
    help selecting from a numbered list
    using reqexp with or from expect to get at matched (sub)expressions.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/59aae16379d9e3ba

    execute processes in parallel
    working in parallel or waiting faster?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/6665114d38d4dc91
	
    TIP #280, extended callframe introspection and debugging
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/6351083aa8e26d9

ATTC: At the Core:
    A bit of tension in the last week over the set of OO Tips has 
    been converted to good momentum ( trial implementations of 
    itcl and snit) and a lively and constructive discussion.
    Still the same discussion on TIP#257,#279 
    ( and some stray messages off this thread )
        http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=30803768&forum_id=3854

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 125 by Brian Griffin : Converting between Frame and Toplevel Windows
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/125.html
	Vote: Done
	state has changed from Draft to Accepted

    TIP 287 by Michael A. Cleverly : Add a 'chan available' Command
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/287.html
	is a new TIP

    TIP 288 by Peter Spjuth : Allow "args" Anywhere in Procedure Formal
    Arguments
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/288.html
	is a new TIP

    TIP 289 by Peter Spjuth : Revision of [lrepeat] Argument Order
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/289.html
	is a new TIP

    TIP 290 by Eckhard Lehmann : Registration of Custom Error Handler Script
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/290.html

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    tk configure question
    status of tk's thread awareness?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/e4ccf7da9cd966c7

TWIP: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    Dual control of Tcl program? Help!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/26c9ceec61d0c7b2

    Persistence for itcl-objects
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/bd9a18bb4c88f06c

    3D simulation with TCL/TK, and OpenGL?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/d1698e81ca1fd7c0

PMAG: Tcl in printed and other Media:
    Unix Review has an article touching on TileTk and the 13th
    annual Tcl/Tk cConference ( written by Cameron Laird and Kathryn Soraiz)
	http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=10102/ur0610j/ur0610j.html


Thanks to Conference Keynoter Richard Suchenwirth for this summary
of Wiki activity:
  After a long week of heated debates on the TCLCORE mailing list,
  let us turn attention to the Wiki ...
  
  A package or two
  - Your chronicler was a bit surprised to see a tree structure being used
    as the basis for a text editor - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15581> - but
    it allows a structured method of working=20
  
  - Trampoline! is a package to deal with PDF files in pure Tcl=20
    - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/13033>. Though confusion is possible: there
    is also a cunning method to recursion by almost the same name
  
  Do you care for MicroSoft Foundation Classes?
  - If you want to combine Tk windows with the windows from, say, the
    MFC classes, what can you do? Well, it does involve some C/C++ code,
    but you can do it: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15861> and=20
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15867>
  
  Tcl-centrisms
  - The French Wiki presents a summary of activities in their monthly
    newsletter - a good exercise in reading French and see what is=20
    going in a non-English spoken community - <http://wfr.tcl.tk/1283>
  
  - To use comments or not to use comments ... and if yes, how many?
    The eternal debate on clear coding - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17137>
  
  - Looking forward to Tcl 8.5? Don't we all! To get a look at what=20
    is in stall: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/10630> and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17101>
  
  - Fortune telling or fairy tales? Two augurs have posted fascinating
    stories about Tcl and the near future ... <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17128>
    and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17130>
  
  
Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

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