Subject: Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Jun 20)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:24:10 +0000
To: "Tcl-URL distribution" :;
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:
    Sturgeon liver.
    I'll be more explicit:  both TclBlend and Jacl have their place.
    What does "Interfacing with Java" mean to you?  Whether to use 
    TclBlend or Jacl depends crucially on that answer.
    With a gun held to my head, I'd conjecture that TclBlend is more
    likely to match your situation.  Cameron Laird on c.l.t
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/08bbabe100f02e43

    Also, you should always specify the "level" argument and that argument
    should only ever be given a value of "1" or "#0". If you think you
    need any other value then your proc should itself take a level
    argument (and incr it). See http://wiki.tcl.tk/18024 for an example of
    this.  Neil Madden
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/61a46c75e07d2148


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE: TclRAL Version 0.8.4 by Andrew Mangogna
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/f745939336986083
    I am not so pleased to have to announce the availability of 
    Version 0.8.4 of TclRAL.
    TclRAL is a "C" based extension to Tcl that makes available a Tuple and
    Relation data type as native Tcl objects and supplies a complete set of
    relational algebraic operators for these types.
    Version 0.8.4 is a small bug fix release to correct a problem in the
    "relation group" command. Although, upgrading is encouraged, the fix to
    the "relation group" command is the only change in this version.
    The project is hosted at Sourceforge and the TEA compliant source package
    as well as precompiled binaries for both Linux and Windows compiled against
    both Tcl 8.4 and Tcl8.5 are available there.
    Homepage:
	http://sourceforge.net/projects/tclral

MEET:
    Tcl 2007 final call for proposals. by Ron Fox
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/278c579e0cf08d76
    I am pleased to be able to announce an extension to the deadline
    for Tcl 2007 submissions.  Abstracts and proposals will be 
    accepted until July 1, 2007.
	In September 2007 the U.S. Tcl conference returns to the historic 
    French Quarter of the city of New Orleans.  Join us for what promises 
    to be the best Tcl conference yet.   Even better, contribute a 
    paper, be prepared to talk about a work in progress, or join in on 
    the lively "Birds of a Feather" discussions that may range in topic 
    anywhere from "Using the Tile widget set" to "Obsolete weaponry."
	http://tcl.tk/community/tcl2007

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Interfacing with Java..
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/d34a8d015bfe797a

    Scrollbars on WinXP.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/f7749bb1e30e9c42
    native or nonnative scrollbars used dependent on the way tcl startup is
    done; and the definitive answer from Georgios Petasis:
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/06f1cef21ccfa234

    tclkit loses its keyboard response? SuSE 10.2 & KDE
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/3df294ab265a1a7e

    Upgrading to ActiveTcl 8.4.14 results in problems with the package command!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/b83912d4d3a35e50

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    TIP 306 by Koen Danckaert : Auto-Naming Widgets
	http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/306.html
	is a new TIP
    Discussion in c.l.t; start with (second) posting by DKF
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/2ecd6fbf92de985b

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    Tklib's widget::scrolledwindow mystery
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/83ed0fb88db0cb5d
	
    Problems with expect and scp
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/a04ac93b9616bda2

    tktreectrl2.1.1 - column delete - please help!
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/d2a22be410642180

    tls cert verification failure
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/96c08c5796bf0f51

    same tcl different under ms windows and wine?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/cf7695875da2ad1d

    This OOTW list is not complete!

TWIP: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl this week TEN years ago:
    TIMING EXPERIMENT 
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl/browse_frm/thread/74ac16c13c651357
    tcl is slow, bytecompilation and dumbfounding a perlite ;-)


Thanks to Arjen Markus for his weekly reports on the Wikis:
  This week's subject is mainly the Wiki itself, as there is 
  a lot of hard labour being put into the software and hardware
  that make the Wiki such a wonderful medium. But your 
  chronicler will not leave unmentioned the pages that caught
  his attention.
  
  The Wiki
  - The Recent Changes page now features a "message of the day"
    at the top.
  
  - It also shows tiny little triangles after the title and
    the last editor's name. Depending on your browser it may  
    or may not be easily visible - but it is there! Click
    on it to see the differences with the previous version of
    the page.
  
  - The Wiki gnomes have been cleaning up a lot of debris that
    had accumulated over the years: especially invalid UTF-8
    codes. 
  
  - Behind the screens a lot of work is being done to make 
    the Wiki more robust and what's more, browser-neutral.
    Not an easy job, as you can see if you visit the Tclers'
    chatroom regularly!
  
  The Pages
  - The well-known SQLite database package plays very well
    with Tcl - but it does some "nasty" things to do that.
    Here is an explanation of what is going on underneath
    - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/19627>
  
  - Tcl has had a style guide for a long time now. Did you
    know it was on the Wiki? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/708>
  
  - PortAuthority is a nice little tool to manage so-called
    DarwinPorts - OSX's answer to the problem of managing
    third-party software - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/14917> and
    beyond.
  
  - Yet another tool for OSX: reading the catalogue of
    iPhoto for storing and browsing photographs
    - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/19626>
  
  - And here is a tool for Linux and UNIX: writing CDs 
    made easy -= <http://wiki.tcl.tk/18080>
  

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    "La Gazette du Técleux" is an important monthly publication.
	http://wfr.tcl.tk/1159

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

We're working on more useful archives of past installments.  In the
meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

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