Subject: Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 4)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:11:42 +0000
To: "Tcl-URL distribution" :;
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:
    "It often took longer to decide what to do than to do it"
    Michael Cleverly as told to the group by Bryan Oakley
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/3f4bb785c19a869f

    "There are strengths and weaknesses of both models, threads vs. events.
    In my server, there is a natural separation of work, where events are 
    the best fit for some work, threads for other work.  And since Tcl has 
    both, I can use both." 
    John Kelly
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/57e729ec9c31595a


POTW:
    Tcl/Tk 8.5b1 RELEASED
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/72edf1e63f1986e2
    The Tcl Core Team is pleased to announce the 8.5b1 releases of the Tcl 
    dynamic language and the Tk toolkit.  This is the first beta release of 
    Tcl/Tk 8.5.  More details can be found below.  We would like to express 
    our gratitude to all those who submit bug reports and patches.  This 
    information is invaluable in enabling us to identify and eliminate 
    problems in the core.
	Homepage:
	http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.5.html
    Downloads:
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10894

    [RELEASE] Aejaks 0.6    by Tom Poindexter
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/3dc490d957a6875
    About Aejaks: 
    Aejaks combines the server-side Ajax windowing system Echo2 with the 
    powerful simplicity of the Tcl langauge. The result is a rich development 
    environment in which to develop Ajax-based web applications, often with 
    much less code to write. Aejaks runs on top of a Java Servlet engine, 
    and can make use of any existing Java library.
    Highlights for 0.6: 
    * New Widgets - from EchopointNG 
          o AbleProperties 
          o ComboBox (includes type-ahead autocomplete) 
          o DirectHtml (arbitrary HTML in a DIV) 
          o ExpandableSection 
          o GroupBox 
          o ProgressBar 
          o Slider 
          o TextFieldEx (includes client-side regexp validation) 
    * New BrowserCommand options: javascript eval, javascript include, print 
    * New Clock and NumberGuess sample apps, contributed by Geoffrey Wu. 
      Note that the Aejaks/Tcl version of NumberGuess is less than one-third 
      the size of the equivalent Echo2/Java version! 
    * Lots of clean-up of the automated object build system. 
    * Misc. bug fixes, documentation updates. 
    Full change list: http://aejaks.sourceforge.net/CHANGES.txt 
    Homepage:  
	http://aejaks.sourceforge.net/ 
    Download: 
	http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=184611 

    [ANNOUNCE] New version of RamDebugger 6.1.1
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/1d4f16d079e8a9a6
    Introduction 
    RamDebugger is a graphical debugger for the scripting lenguage Tcl-TK. 
    With RamDebugger, it is possible to make Local Debugging, where the 
    debugger starts the program to be debugged. and Remote debugging, where 
    the program to debug is already started and RamDebugger connects to it. 
    RamDebugger has additional capabilities like: 
    * Editing the code. It is possible to edit the code inside its own 
      editor and resend the new code without closing the debugged program. 
    * The TCL-TK source code is colorized and supports automatic indentation. 
    * When stopping the debugger is one source code line, it is possible 
      to view all the variables and expression values, as well as change them. 
    * It has additional options to measure execution times in the debugged 
      program.  Works in Linux and Windows 
    * Includes additional packages, like Tkcon and VisualRegexp, developed 
      by third party people, as a convenience for RamDebugger users. 
    * The same program is an IDE for compiling and debugging c and c++
    Homepage:
	http://www.compassis.com/ramdebugger
    Downloads:
	ftp://ftp.compassis.com/pub/ramdebugger

    ANNOUNCE: eTcl 1.0-rc23 (based on 8.4.16)
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/2380146d32329aa3
    I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of eTcl 1.0-rc23 for 
    Windows, linux-x86, linux-arm (softfloat and hardfloat), linux-mipsel, 
    linux-powerpc (including Linux on Playstation 3), Windows Mobile (2003, 
    2003SE, 5.0 and 6.0) pocketPC and smartphones, and Mac OS X (Aqua) as 
    universal binary (x86 and PPC).
    Homepage:
	http://www.evolane.com/
    Downloads:
	http://www.evolane.com/software/etcl/index.html
    Infos:
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/eTcl 
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/15260 
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/19642

MEET:
    The 14th Annual Conference	( after the fact )
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/50bd01edd2cac130

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Using Javascript from Tcl?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/d1df8f174495e234

    How to create Captcha with TclMagick?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/622443c5610dda34

    how to debug "no such variable"
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/22b1c231ee4b80e8

    OT: load distribution algorithm
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/cd29ab8e5b9fe31a

    clock scan 8.4/8.5 incompatibility?
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/674e634b95b4af3

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    nothing new here, walk on.

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    tclBlend - binary version
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/f43885318047b79d

    Cannot get cwsh (ck8.0) going
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/2bc61b1def1d813f

    SnODBC problems persist on Linux ! Please help
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/015fff8bbb957900

    Import tool for Quality Centre 9
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_frm/thread/a9ef6c7686054c3a

PMAG: Tcl in printed and other Media:
    When Choice is Demotivating: Can One Desire too Much of a Good Thing?
	http://www.columbia.edu/~ss957/whenchoiceabstract.htm
    This was mentioned in some discussion on parallel programming.
    The connection to Tcl lies in the "Choiciness" this language provides.


Thanks for Arjen Markus for his weekly summary of Wiki action:
  Yes, we have reached page 20000! Uhm, that is "20000" not factorial(20000).
  While that page by itself only has an interesting title, tcl::mathop::>, 
  no contents, others do have contents well worth reading. For instance:
  
  A tool or two
  - Using DDE to make Acrobat jump through hoops: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20088>
  
  - Nowadays we have no lack of memory or disk space ... Or do we?
    Here are some tools to monitor the memory that is being used:
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/4559>
  
  - Compile and link and run your own C extensions without having to 
    have a compiler and linker installed: Critcl has gained a 
    companion - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20086>
  
  A picture tells more ...
  - If we did not have Scene, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/15779>, which is part
    of eTcl, we would still have <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17771> with
    yet another demo
  
  - The yearly conference may have ended and the words that were spoken
    may exist only in the memories of the attendees, but we stil have
    the summaries! <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17034> will guide you to the
    summaries made "in vivo" by Michael Cleverly.
  
  - Astronomers can make beautiful pictures ... Is it any wonder there
    is a Tcl package to help them do that? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17633>
  
  Experiments 
  - If we had no Richard Suchenwirth, we might not see an experiment
    like <http://wiki.tcl.tk/5892>
  
  - Although, Slebetman is known to experiment with such basic 
    commands too: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20066>
  
  - Is it a number? If not, what is it? The secrets of "Not-a-number"
    on display, but not revealed: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17751>
  
  - And finally, can we handle infinite sets? I mean: truly infinite
    sets, albeit countable? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20067> is a new
    page on the subject. 


Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    "La Gazette du Técleux" is an important monthly publication.
	http://wfr.tcl.tk/1159

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

We're working on more useful archives of past installments.  In the
meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

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