Subject: Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 10)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:23:49 +0000
To: "Tcl-URL distribution" :;
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:
    If I ruled the world, programmers would still use 
    keypunch machines and IBM System/360's.  IMO, 
    it never got any better than that. John Kelly on c.l.t
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/7e2878165b0a3200

    But I wouldn't want to live in two time zones that are 8 hours apart
    at once, for more than a week.  Reinhard Max, on Tcl2007Conf


POTW:
    ANNOUNCE: TclOO v0.1 Released   by Donal K. Fellows
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b78fe02b34991b57
    I'm very pleased to announce that TclOO version 0.1 is now released.
    It's hosted in the Tcl project at SourceForge.
    It requires Tcl 8.5b1 to build and operate; see the enclosed README.txt
    for details on how to build this TEA-based package. No promises on
    whether I'll do a binary package for any platforms as yet.
    Details about this package can be found in the Wiki, naturally, at
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/TclOO 
    and any problems should be reported using Tcl's issue trackers at 
	http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=10894&atid=110894 with
    the summary field prefixed by "TclOO:". 
    Donwload:
	http://sf.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10894&package_id=247402

    [ANNOUNCE] New version of RamDebugger 6.1.1
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/f2af27176eac8737
    A new version of RamDebugger 6.1.2 has been released. 
    It corrects some small errors in version 6.1.1
    RamDebugger is a graphical debugger for the scripting lenguage Tcl-TK. 
    With RamDebugger, it is possible to make Local Debugging, where the 
    debugger starts the program to be debugged. and Remote debugging, where 
    the program to debug is already started and RamDebugger connects to it.
    Homepage:
	http://www.compassis.com/ramdebugger'

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Tcl for Evil Geniuses
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/8ba7b3e2e65dda9e

    fully parsed and bytecoded Tcl
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/d92c142931a83b1

    FORTH accessing Tcl/Tk functionality via DLL in WinXPI
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/cba2460a563cd3ba

    connection refused
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/71f65c37ae3a581c
    and a tcl Bug where [socket] returns an already inuse identifyer.

    Mismatched braces in comments
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/b5f77a3195db3508

    XF vs. Vtcl vs. Tkproe for building screens.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/7b1545885c4a7c57

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    nothing new here, walk on.

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    tclBlend, events
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/15cd6186cb951377

    Linkage errors building tcl-8.4.16 on Windows (VS8)
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/c37827cee4065364

    Cursormask in Tk8.5b1 Linux (Bug?)
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/705a12564dfcd48f

ATTC: At the Core:
    [TCLCORE] Interpret vs Shallow-compile
	http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=5e9437310710091430h6fec22faw92c5730f1d2cf107%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=tcl-core


Thanks for Arjen Markus for his weekly summary of Wiki action:
  Surprising things on the Wiki ... well, you'll see
  
  How about ...
  - Printing? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/19851> leverages a few
    packages and creates a canvas that does PDF.
  
  - Round corners? <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20109> uses Tile
    in a new way to get nice round corners for text widgets.
  
  - Embedding a C compiler? Critcl allows us to embed C code
    but still requires a useable C compiler. Here is the
    next step: the compiler is part of the whole package
    - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/8494>
  
  About the howto ...
  - Did you know you actually put those strange drawings 
    in the Wingdings font on Windows to some use?
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20107>
  
  - Clustering data is one of those useful, but slightly capricious,
    statistical techniques for making sense of loads of data 
    ... <http://wiki.tcl.tk/11147>
  
  - And what can we say about data? Data is code is data is code ...
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17869> uses this dual character to do
    some smart things.
  
  About who?
  - Conferences are a delightful environment for tossing new
    ideas around - though this one touches Tcl at the heart!
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20114>
  
  - Go all the way: use Tcl for web browsing - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20113>
  
  - Or start a blog - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/12061> shows you won't
    be the first
   

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    "La Gazette du Técleux" is an important monthly publication.
	http://wfr.tcl.tk/1159

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

We're working on more useful archives of past installments.  In the
meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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