Subject: Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Nov 14)
From: Uwe Klein
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:17:04 +0000
To: "Tcl-URL distribution" :;
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

QOTW:
    This position is held despite the list receiving not infrequent
    messages from experienced Tclers being surprised by some unexpected
    behaviour of the interpreter like just recently here: 
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9266d9e0253b79c0/4ddc78519fdc213c#4ddc78519fdc213c
    with other Tclers also puzzling over it and giving 
    contrary solutions.  
    I'm very grateful to these Tcl experts who teach so much.
    ewilsonmail on comp.lang.tcl
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/6cad6f62487d8f5f


    ... [A]lso forget about other languages and what they do.  You'll
    likely go crazy and write another OO extension.  tom.rmadilo
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/277678ea8bc0e9b3


HELP:
    VTCL CVS version
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/e094a2ad92ef035e
    Re: XF vs. Vtcl vs. Tkproe for building screens.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/84ff2c0d7d267a06
    Ken Parker would like to revive VTCL:
    There have been alot of updates to the cvs version of VTCL. We would
    like input on the project. If you have any suggestions or comments on
    the project let us know on sourceforge vtcl.sf.net. I will continue to
    poor over any posts, bugs, support request, features that are posted.
    
POTW:

    Announce - Eclipse DLTK 1.0 M3 Release.
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/90eb038bcfdb90fc
    Some Tcl/XOTcl/TclTest enhancements.
    Homepage:
	http://www.eclipse.org/dltk/
    Downloads:
	http://download.eclipse.org/technology/dltk/downloads/

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    Tcl on slashdot...
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/f80d52c93fd20904
    or: easy language Tcl? and possible involvement in the One laptop per child project
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/19f96aed1b74fe5e
    
    ... and I thought I knew the quoting rules
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9266d9e0253b79c0

    interp alias - renaming problem
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/635558cebe826b94

    easy(?) 3D graphics for rendering geometry
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/9bd87eb73a2ad7da

    tbcload and 8.5
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/fd4e9098ea96d395

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    nothing new here, walk on.

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    compiling Tk on Linux 64-bit - help with error requested
	http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/browse_thread/thread/33976aaa02c7a766


Thanks for Arjen Markus for his weekly summary of Wiki action:
  Last week's storm that tormented Northern Europe seems to have
  been replaced by heavy showers tormenting at least your 
  chronicler's part of this world. Oh well, we can always warm
  ourselves at the Wiki.
  
  For eager programmers
  - SimCity remains a nice little game - with a Tcl/Tk GUI, it 
    seems. Now: can it make it to the "One laptop per child" project?
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/7416>
  
  - Phoning (or rather: using a phone for whatever task you can 
    put it to) seems to be _the_ thing nowadays. Here is a
    new kid on that block: Android - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20310>
  
  What's in a set of syntactical rules?
  - Tcl implemented in JavaScript: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17972>
  
  - Tcl converted to assembly: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20286>
  
  - Fortran converted to Tcl: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20295>
  
  - Let C and Tcl syntax coexist: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17068>
  
  - From Tcl code to documentation: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/13009>
  
  Last but not least
  - Let us have aspect-oriented programming, now that OO is 
    firmly in the core - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20308> - "if I
    understand what I mean."
  
  - Never was statistics easier: here is yet another collaboration
    between languages: R and Tcl combined - <http://wiki.tcl.tk/10619>
  
  - We _are_ part of a secret society and now we have the emblem
    to show that to the world! <http://wiki.tcl.tk/20289>
  
  
Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
pages:
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at
        http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/about

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".
	http://www.tcl.tk

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
        http://www.tcl.tk/resource/
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing
        http://www.tcl.tk/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things 
    Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/969
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:
        http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Tcl

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
        http://www.activestate.com/Tcl
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
        http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    "La Gazette du Técleux" is an important monthly publication.
	http://wfr.tcl.tk/1159

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.
        http://del.icio.us/tag/tcl

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).
        http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even 
    though clta itself is dormant.
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/

We're working on more useful archives of past installments.  In the
meantime, an alternative is
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl

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