Crossdrilling
[email protected] (Dave Williams)
gnttype 28 Jan 1994
- -> Oh, and the price was the exact same as the turbo stock replacement
-> crank! (~$435) And my GM guys says he located a few ... boy, it
-> almost tempts one, but THAT one is going to be a tough one to sneak
-> by the wife!!! <*Grin*>
- Why buy it? Just drill yours. You can do it with a plain old handheld
electric drill. Center-punch the journal, block the crank where it
won't roll, use a milk crate or something to get the right work height,
use a brand new sharp drill bit, someone to spray soapy water as a
coolant stream, polish up your brass cojones, and just do it. I've done
several cranks that way. Nowadays I'd just toss it on the milling
machine, but I didn't always have toys like that.
- Center punch the BITCH out of the crank. If the drill walks out of the
hole and skitters down the journal, you will have Excedrin Headache
#25525742.
- Clean up the hole with your trusty die grinder, make sure there are no
burrs inside, and you're ready to go, don't even have to have the crank
turned.
dave williams
[email protected]
- -> do not find added crank flex to be an acceptable tradeoff, personally.
- I have never seen a failure at a main journal, cross-drilled or not.
I've seen plenty of failures at a rod cheek, and a couple of lost
snouts, but no main problems, even on small block Chevys, which have
notoriously undersize bearing journals to start with.
- That's not to say no crank will ever break at the main journal because
it was cross drilled, but I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist
over it.
dave williams
[email protected]
- -> I always wondered if you couldn't just do it that way ... everybody
-> has told me that you'd screw up the journals and it would eat
-> bearings. I never understood that
- I've not had any trouble. A hole is a hole, as long as you don't slip
and scar the journal.
[email protected] (Dave Williams)
gnttype 03 Mar 1994
- Ken, remember if you port the oil galleries and crossdrill the crank,
you may see LESS indicated oil pressure in the engine. What you're
measuring is back pressure in the oil system, not flow. Most of your
oil is going right back out the oil pump bypass instead of to the bearings.
- Depending on how much pump volume you have (I've never done any oiling
mods on a Buick) your pump might send all the oil through the bearings
instead of just part of it. If so, the indicated pressure will fall.
This is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. Unless it's your
first major engine job and you're paranoid....
- Oil pressure is a virtually negligible part of how a plain bearing
works. All the pressure does is guarantee adequate flow, which is used
for cooling. It has almost nothing to do with load-carrying ability.
The rotation of the journal bearing floats it off the bearing. That's
how old cars got by with splash oiling for so many decades.
[email protected] (Dave Williams)
gnttype 26 Jun 1997
- -> The Turbo TA cranks were cross-drilled from the factory. I haven't
-> heard of those cranks being particularly breakage prone.
- Crossdrilling won't hurt a thing. Most crank breakages are across one of
the throws or a journal cheek, nowhere near a drilling.
- The factories typically don't crossdrill unless the engine has a rod oiling
problem at the stock power level or they're qualifying the piece as a
factory crossdrilled part for racing use. Each hole costs money, and an OEM
cost accountant would part out his family to save $0.22 per car.
- On the flip side, if the engine's oil pump capacity (volume) isn't
sufficient to handle the increased oil flow resulting from the crossdrills,
the overall oil pressure may drop below acceptable limits at idle. This
won't hurt the rods and mains any - the plenty of oil will be passing
through them - but there may not be enough pressure for the hydraulic
lifters to work properly and you can get into things like lifter tick at
idle.
- If you're starting to smoke rod bearings, you need to crossdrill. If you're
not smoking rod bearings, crossdrilling won't hurt, but it won't help,
either.